Comments on: The cheesy post of the year… http://blog.ngedit.com/2006/02/01/the-cheesy-post-of-the-year/ A blog on the development of the NGEDIT text editor Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:41:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Nick Hebb http://blog.ngedit.com/2006/02/01/the-cheesy-post-of-the-year/#comment-301 Nick Hebb Fri, 03 Feb 2006 23:04:27 +0000 http://blog.ngedit.com/2006/02/01/the-cheesy-post-of-the-year/#comment-301 >> Regarding the anonymity thing, I’m not sure whether you mentioned it because of my case ... Actually, I just assumed the letters following "J" were lurking somewhere around this site. I never noticed your anonymity. Still, you've got a site and two products. Someday the veil will probably be lifted, revealing the person behind it all. That's a little different than posting with a pseudonym and no link - where the only people who could trace all my old asinine posts back to me are Joel and the moderators. ;-) >> Regarding the anonymity thing, I’m not sure whether you mentioned it because of my case …

Actually, I just assumed the letters following “J” were lurking somewhere around this site. I never noticed your anonymity.

Still, you’ve got a site and two products. Someday the veil will probably be lifted, revealing the person behind it all. That’s a little different than posting with a pseudonym and no link - where the only people who could trace all my old asinine posts back to me are Joel and the moderators. ;-)

]]> By: J http://blog.ngedit.com/2006/02/01/the-cheesy-post-of-the-year/#comment-300 J Fri, 03 Feb 2006 12:14:46 +0000 http://blog.ngedit.com/2006/02/01/the-cheesy-post-of-the-year/#comment-300 Hey Nick, Glad it didn't come across as cheesy. You can bet the first draft came across as cheesy to me. Then it was fun to use the title to comment on that. I also think both the JoS/BoS forum and Eric Sink's stuff have helped make the option more "tangible". I think there also is some momentum on this going on on the internet in general, and not only related to software development. About "owing" success, I think success only comes through a lot of effort. Maybe it's even premature to call success on many of these ventures I talked about, they're starting, but I think making it to a real 1.0 release is already a big point. There are very many projects that never make it there. And I think the forums do provide some kind of an echo chamber. Regarding the anonymity thing, I'm not sure whether you mentioned it because of my case - there are real, external reasons for which using my full name is not advisable in my case just yet. You can bet I don't like that, hopefully this can be fixed in a few months. And I think "feeling part of a community" is the important part, independent of whether the community is formal / informal, whether the bounds are well defined, or even explicitly counts on you as a member of it. I wish you the best luck and I hope you can finally put your 1.0 together in the coming months! Hey Nick,

Glad it didn’t come across as cheesy. You can bet the first draft came across as cheesy to me. Then it was fun to use the title to comment on that.

I also think both the JoS/BoS forum and Eric Sink’s stuff have helped make the option more “tangible”. I think there also is some momentum on this going on on the internet in general, and not only related to software development.

About “owing” success, I think success only comes through a lot of effort. Maybe it’s even premature to call success on many of these ventures I talked about, they’re starting, but I think making it to a real 1.0 release is already a big point. There are very many projects that never make it there. And I think the forums do provide some kind of an echo chamber.

Regarding the anonymity thing, I’m not sure whether you mentioned it because of my case - there are real, external reasons for which using my full name is not advisable in my case just yet. You can bet I don’t like that, hopefully this can be fixed in a few months.

And I think “feeling part of a community” is the important part, independent of whether the community is formal / informal, whether the bounds are well defined, or even explicitly counts on you as a member of it.

I wish you the best luck and I hope you can finally put your 1.0 together in the coming months!

]]> By: Nick Hebb http://blog.ngedit.com/2006/02/01/the-cheesy-post-of-the-year/#comment-299 Nick Hebb Thu, 02 Feb 2006 10:32:55 +0000 http://blog.ngedit.com/2006/02/01/the-cheesy-post-of-the-year/#comment-299 You didn't come off cheesy to me. Every time someone posts that they've released a product, I feel glad for them and invigorated by it at the same time. There's nothing more motivating than seeing others succeed. I think the BoS forum has opened a lot of people's eyes to the world of possibilities out there. I wonder how many owe some, or maybe even most, of their success to the exposure and relationships built through it. One last thought on the subject of community to any anonymous readers: I started visiting JoS a few months after it was launched (4+ years ago?). But until about 9 months ago I always posted anonymously. I never felt like I was part of a community until I "came out of the closet" and started using my real name. You're not exactly nobody if you post anonymously, but you're not really "somebody" either. You didn’t come off cheesy to me.

Every time someone posts that they’ve released a product, I feel glad for them and invigorated by it at the same time. There’s nothing more motivating than seeing others succeed.

I think the BoS forum has opened a lot of people’s eyes to the world of possibilities out there. I wonder how many owe some, or maybe even most, of their success to the exposure and relationships built through it.

One last thought on the subject of community to any anonymous readers: I started visiting JoS a few months after it was launched (4+ years ago?). But until about 9 months ago I always posted anonymously. I never felt like I was part of a community until I “came out of the closet” and started using my real name. You’re not exactly nobody if you post anonymously, but you’re not really “somebody” either.

]]> By: Dennis http://blog.ngedit.com/2006/02/01/the-cheesy-post-of-the-year/#comment-298 Dennis Wed, 01 Feb 2006 20:35:25 +0000 http://blog.ngedit.com/2006/02/01/the-cheesy-post-of-the-year/#comment-298 Thanks for the link J and I'm glad our review is continuing to generate traffic for you :) Thanks for the link J and I’m glad our review is continuing to generate traffic for you :)

]]> By: J http://blog.ngedit.com/2006/02/01/the-cheesy-post-of-the-year/#comment-297 J Wed, 01 Feb 2006 19:55:58 +0000 http://blog.ngedit.com/2006/02/01/the-cheesy-post-of-the-year/#comment-297 Gavin, cool thoughts. I wanted to do the post after Dimitris', and also to return some link love to everyone who has linked to my blog/site in the past. It's a bit walking on thin ice as I didn't want to upset anyone for not mentioning them. And I'm still a bit scared with that, not that other people haven't been helpful or that I don't pay attention to their stuff after all... anyway, I'll fix that down the road... BTW, I like the digest a lot. I think there *is* quite some momentum building up in the uISV community... Oh, and I also *had* to link Bob "Earthquake" Walsh for the tremendous energy, and Joel's site for starting the meeting place all the way back... (as if everyone didn't know about it already...) Gavin, cool thoughts. I wanted to do the post after Dimitris’, and also to return some link love to everyone who has linked to my blog/site in the past. It’s a bit walking on thin ice as I didn’t want to upset anyone for not mentioning them. And I’m still a bit scared with that, not that other people haven’t been helpful or that I don’t pay attention to their stuff after all… anyway, I’ll fix that down the road…

BTW, I like the digest a lot. I think there *is* quite some momentum building up in the uISV community…

Oh, and I also *had* to link Bob “Earthquake” Walsh for the tremendous energy, and Joel’s site for starting the meeting place all the way back… (as if everyone didn’t know about it already…)

]]> By: Gavin Bowman http://blog.ngedit.com/2006/02/01/the-cheesy-post-of-the-year/#comment-296 Gavin Bowman Wed, 01 Feb 2006 19:31:52 +0000 http://blog.ngedit.com/2006/02/01/the-cheesy-post-of-the-year/#comment-296 I forgot to mention: it was a feeling very much like what you've described that prompted me to start putting together the Micro ISV Digest posts. I was getting a real sense of community, and I felt like I wanted to keep up with what everyone was doing. That sense of being part of a larger community instead of just a developer somewhere in a room has been a huge help to me since I stopped lurking and started taking part. I forgot to mention: it was a feeling very much like what you’ve described that prompted me to start putting together the Micro ISV Digest posts. I was getting a real sense of community, and I felt like I wanted to keep up with what everyone was doing.

That sense of being part of a larger community instead of just a developer somewhere in a room has been a huge help to me since I stopped lurking and started taking part.

]]> By: Gavin Bowman http://blog.ngedit.com/2006/02/01/the-cheesy-post-of-the-year/#comment-295 Gavin Bowman Wed, 01 Feb 2006 19:18:02 +0000 http://blog.ngedit.com/2006/02/01/the-cheesy-post-of-the-year/#comment-295 Thanks for the link J, and nice post. Oh, and thanks to JD for fighting my corner ;). Thanks for the link J, and nice post.

Oh, and thanks to JD for fighting my corner ;).

]]> By: v http://blog.ngedit.com/2006/02/01/the-cheesy-post-of-the-year/#comment-294 v Wed, 01 Feb 2006 04:17:38 +0000 http://blog.ngedit.com/2006/02/01/the-cheesy-post-of-the-year/#comment-294 cheesy? well - it was a nice tasting cheese anyway :) Hope ngedit is coming along nicely! cheesy? well - it was a nice tasting cheese anyway :) Hope ngedit is coming along nicely!

]]> By: J http://blog.ngedit.com/2006/02/01/the-cheesy-post-of-the-year/#comment-293 J Tue, 31 Jan 2006 23:38:09 +0000 http://blog.ngedit.com/2006/02/01/the-cheesy-post-of-the-year/#comment-293 JD, really accute, fixed it. Reason: being sleepy? My now two-day-long minor toothache that doesn't let me sleep well? Just plain sloppy writing? :) JD, really accute, fixed it. Reason: being sleepy? My now two-day-long minor toothache that doesn’t let me sleep well? Just plain sloppy writing? :)

]]> By: Dimitris Giannitsaros http://blog.ngedit.com/2006/02/01/the-cheesy-post-of-the-year/#comment-292 Dimitris Giannitsaros Tue, 31 Jan 2006 23:31:04 +0000 http://blog.ngedit.com/2006/02/01/the-cheesy-post-of-the-year/#comment-292 Thanks! And good luck on getting NGEDIT 1.0 out! Thanks! And good luck on getting NGEDIT 1.0 out!

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